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into a civil war. did president obama disspeaker john boehner in a comment today. >> on the conservative side of the republican party today. with senator demint speaking on the idea that $800 billion of tax increases were offered. but he got the backing of mitch mcconnel. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i think it sis important tha the house leadership is trying to mov move it forward. i had hoped that we would be accomplishing more in the real talks. but i can tell you, there is nothing going on privately that is not going on publicly. even as he has to deal with this rebellion. he has to deal with democrats and harry reid's comments today give you a sense of where they are coming from. >> they have to come up with specific revenue. and they refuse to do that. it is a simple question of arithmetic. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. so as you know in washington, a rebellion in the ranks like this could be a problem. but in the spohort-term, if it remains constrained. it could be a good negotiating term. he could say i have offered everything that i have and
are speaking out about an obama care tax on medical device companies. 16 other democrats in the senate are joining them. geez, i may faint. now to washington, d.c. with fed chairman ben bernanke sent a chill down the spine of traders on wall street. bernanke said the fed's money printing should last only until we hit 6.5% unemployment. markets didn't like that one bit and a good rally was completely erased. and we go to damascus where the assad regime is firing scud missiles and where did those missiles come from anyway? >>> in a letter to senate majority leader harry reid, 18 democratic senators are requesting a sweetheart deal to delay a 2.3% medical device tax that is part of obama care. due to start january 1st. but you know what, may i with all respect, these guys are hypocrites. they're not supply siders. yes, the tax is a job killer, as they say, but it's only hitting their states. the senators claim the medical device tax kills jobs but why aren't they against all the other job killing obama care taxes or for that matter the fiscal cliff tax hikes that are coming. let's faulk a
report." president obama goes before business leaders and says "we could get this done in a week" when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but tim geithner just told cnbc that we're going to go over the cliff unless tax rates go up. at the same time, two dozen republican house members signed a bipartisan letter with democrats defecting from the boehner plan. in the meantime, a nice game for the day for the dow, but a stunning selloff for apple. do you know what? fiscal cliff or not, the s&p 500 is up 12% year to date. that is a handsome gain for investors, an optimistic year, believe it or not. and we already bailed out detroit's auto industry. but now, at least one motown politician is telling president obama he should bail out detroit bankrupt city government, too. this sure isn't the free market, and i asked why should a texas taxpayer bail out detroit? >>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president
evening, everyone. i'm larry kudlow. this is "the kudlow report." the talks are back on. team obama and team boehner are back at the negotiating table. but there is still substantial disagreement on tax rates, tax revenues, domestic spending and entitlement reform and the clock is ticking. speaking of tax hikes, europe's grand experiment with taxing the rich more is falling apart, especially in france and britain. and here at home, california and new york are passing through the 50% tax rate barrier. is anybody looking at how tax hikes fail the test of economic growth? >>> back here in the u.s., could it be michigan which used to call itself the worker's paradise union state is now moving towards new anti-union right-to-work legislation and it looks like it's going to pass? but first up, budget talks resume between speaker john boehner and president obama today. with just 25 days to go, let's keep tabs on where we stand. reports of a conservative backlash against speaker boehner simply not true. he has the solid support of his leadership and the rank and file. but there is concern a
point the leadership ip the senate and the house will sign onto expending president obama's eidea to take over. >> he will set the tone for whatever the issue will be. i'm not sure i would use a retre retreat. >> would a resection about extending the tax cuts. >> i can't answer that question. when did we stop talking about who those people paying the taxes would be. many of those almost one miggion are small business people and not create more jobs hurting economic growth and i think that is what you have to focus on when you talk about race iing w. >> i understand the point. in these negotiations the pras seems to have the or the rich t cuts. >> we haven't tualked enough about what it will mean to the economy. we have to care about who gets hit by it. we have to begin thinking about it. >> not an ees asy thing to do. we called it decoupling. again, i don't peak for anybody but myself. my point is we need to remind people that there are three things the small business person and where is the spending cut? >> one last one, the gop will be claimed if all of the tax carts experbecaus
president obama has wasted another week by not making a real proposal. meanwhile, republicans are divided and senator rand paul on this show last night may have made the most constructive proposal of all. >> i'm happy not to filibuster it. i will announce tonight on your show i will work with harry reid to let him pass his big old tax hike with a simple majority if that's what harry reid wants. then they will be the party of high taxes and they can own it. >> all right. without that kind of republican strategic retreat, the december 31st deadline is not likely to be met. in today's jobs report it was positive and it beat the street and stocks went up. how do we move 150,000 jobs per month up to 300,000 which would be a real recovery? first up breaking news out of the supreme court this afternoon, the nation's highest court agreed to take up the explosive issue of same-sex marriage, agreeing to hear challenges to the federal defense of marriage act and california's proposition 8. nbc's pete williams joins us now from washington with all the latest details. good evening, pete. >> reporter:
of communication are open. we don't know what it is speaker baner and barack obama are hashing out behind closed doors but more republicans are gravitating to the idea of compromising on a tax rate increase so long as they can get what they want for spending and entitlement cuts. listen. >> those rates are going up. we either act now to keep them from going up from as many people as possible or they will go up on everyone. that's a disaster. let's recognize reality, take care of as many people as we can. >> meanwhile, you're right. the president was in detroit where he continued his outside-inside game of running a campaign-style effort to jin up popular support for the fiscal cliff. because he was in michigan he took a whack at the proposed legislation -- the so-called right to work legislation. listen to the president. >> these so-called right to work laws don't have to do with economics. they have to do with politics. [ cheers ] they're really talking about giving you the right to work for less money. >> obviously a pro union crowd there. a lot of folks from the uaw there in detroit. but the
for a proposal from this gentleman, the president. president obama. and the president is set to speak about the cliff and the a economy later today. >> i thought i was supposed to come here today. you thought you were supposed to come here today. so we are both here. not really, folks. a lot of talk today is about what investors should do if we go over the cliff. what should we do if there is a debt deal before year-end or shortly thereafter. we have smart strategies and individual stock picks for you this hour. >> that's right. well also take a look at another side of google that you very rarely hear about. the internet giant stashing billions in tax shelters to avoid paying taxes. is that fair play or outrageous corporate behavior? especially in this climate. well talk about that. but first, markets are generally higher. dow jones industrial average up 29 points on the day. nasdaq is up 7. and s&p 500 up about 1 1/2. >> they've been that way about the last ten days or two weeks or so. 21 days until america goes over the cliff or not. president obama meeting with the house speaker boehner
to be for the rising movie industry. cet will head out to washington as president obama is pushing forward his tax for the wealthy agenda. george osbourne is going to update today. the chancellor will have his work cut out to meet his target of eradicating the federal deficit by 2015 as well as securing a fall to gdp ratio. also expected further pressure with a cut to its growth forecast. steve is braving rather inclement british winter weather outside the houses of parliament. >> lovely. >> i know you like it. how much is it going to be raining on george osbourne's parade? >> it's going to rain on his parade. you just nailed it, ross. three things which are going to come up today, which he has very little control over. one is that obr reckoning on the uk economy. thought only back in march it was going to grow -- pain a negative growth for the year. next year they thought it was going to be 2% growth. it's probably only going to be 1%. in terms of those two targets you mentioned, eradicating the structural deficit in a five-year period, that's going to have another couple of years. >> right. now,
-to-face, president obama and house speaker john boehner sit down for a one-on-one over the weekend. there are just three weeks left before the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. >>> italian shares are down nearly 3% this morning. for the most part, it is bank stocks leading the way down. we're now down about 2.76% on the ftse mib. bank stocks have been hit particularly hard this morning. earlier, we saw shares down 5.6%. we're seeing the same thing, whether it's bmps hitting session lows down nearly 6% comes amid concerns about leadership and economic reform in italy following mario monte's announcement that he'll resign once the budget has been passed. this move is likely to bring the country forward to elections next year. the italian prime minister has offered no clue as to whether or not he will run and it comes after sylvia berlusconi declared over the weekend he would throw his hat in the ring for the job of premier. carolyn ross is in italy following the details there. can you walk us through the time frame here? when are we expected monte to step down? what happens next? >> good morning to y
. on a road trip yesterday, president obama indicated that he is willing to compromise, just not on that point about an increase in tax for relthy americans. meantime, speaker boehner says he is still waiting on specific spending cuts. joining us now for analysis, tony fratto, of hamilton place strategies and former white house press secretary and gerald bernstein former economic adviser to vice president joe biden. gentlemen, thank you for being here with us and getting this special day of coverage kicked off for us. >> rising early and rising above. >> exactly. let's talk about this. jared, it seems like things have gotten quieter. do you think that's the case? is that a good sign? >> i think it's probably a pretty good sign. if you look at this morning's papers, you see a number of articles suggesting that there's a bit more compromise in the air. my concern is that tomorrow's papers may say the opposite. so interestingly, there's been some pretty leak free discussions going on, which i actually think is a good thing. they're obviously big, outstanding questions. you mentioned the tax rate
/european time. >>> u.s. budget talks have intensified. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone tuesday after exchanging new proposals. aides confirm the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday, reducing demand for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion over the next decade. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks by his original offer a week ago. reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal which it hasn't put on the table before. in an interview with abc news, president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill who recognize the economy will be better off. american families will be better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1. i'm confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> you see president obama's full interview wit
of u.s. stocks next. >>> and as the fiscal cliff turns, president obama campaign style once again today. this time in michigan. that after talking with house speaker john boehner over the weekend. their firps one on one in weeks. is that why republicans are saying they would swallow higher taxes for the right deal on spending cuts? we'll talk to tom cole who is making that case in just a few minutes. >>> bmw and mercedes are looking for the best selling luxury brand in the united states. wait until you hear what your money can get you these days. you're watching cnbc. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is q rea this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? >>> is the u.s. consumer in trouble? the front page on this morning's "wall
that, plus obama care, could force him to lay off workers. he joins us now to make his case. >> welcome, sir. >> thank you very much for joining us. tell us in your own words what you're most fearing here >> you know what? we've got this r & d tax credit that has not been renewed, hitting our bottom line by 2%, 2.5%. think about it. these are high-paying jobs that we hire. it was just announced that china surpassed the u.s. in patent applications just last year. the r & d tax credit goes to hiring and expanding our r & d research. that and obama care, obama care just hit us by 19.5%. our medical costs are going up next year by 19.5%. so what can we do? we'll have to adjust our costs and get them in line. we compete in the worldwide economy, and our costs are going up. >> how much did that loss of the r & d tax credit cost your company as well? >> it cost us about 2.5%, 2% on the bottom line. >> and if the r & d tax credit does not come back, how many people might you have to let go next year? >> so what we have is we've got the 2%, 2.5% that we lost in the bottom line and obama care hit
at this point are up 1.20. $1659 and ounce. >> wonder what boehner and obama talked about on the phone. i think it went something like this. your mother! no, your mother. no, your mother. and then it went back and forth. your mother to infinity. >> no, i think what happened is we realize that there's been an awful lot of theatrics. >> you don't think they said your mother? >> no. >> you don't think they hurled insults at each other? >> no. >> actually, boehner was just a dial tone. you said i'm supposed to do what to myself? no, that's not boehner. >> on the economic front, i guess there are things going on. more employment data on the way. tomorrow the big jobs report and then there was the issue of the fiscal cliff. 11,000 in citigroup. i wonder if we start seeing things before next year. people are not hiring people. >> and we've talked a lot about this, ceos have already had to make their plans known to their boards. so it's had its impact. >> getner says the obama administration is only too willing to go over the qulif. cliff. do they mean marginal rates, or just rates. >> that's what's go
today. he'll be back tomorrow. president obama and speaker boehner are not commenting about their meeting yesterday, but me members of the parties are continuing the public debate about taxes, spending and the fiscal cliff. republicans want a melt on xwiemtment and tax reform from the president. democrats insist this will not happen until the gop agrees on a tax hike. senator dick durbin saying no deal on the debt without a tax hike of the wealthy. >> i can't tell you, i don't want to do it, the president doesn't want to do it, but we need to solve the problem been we cannot allow the reckless position to drive this economy into another recession. >> some suggesting that it might be better to cave to the president now on taxes and keep up the fight on spending. >> if we were to pass, for instance, raising the top two rate and that's it, all of a sudden we do have the leverage of the debt ceiling and we haven't given that up. >> meantime, one influential voice says enough is enough. >> that's like betting your country. there's something terribly bizarre and juvenile about tha
do we do? if you were advising president obama, what would you do right now? what would you advise? >> well, he didn't call me, but if he had -- >> really? >> surprise. >> i would tell -- to be honest, i would tell him to take a few lessons from his defeated challenger. what i would do is i would focus primarily on four things. i would say, one, we need to get a better tax code, a much more pro-growth, pro-markets, pro-jobs tax code. we need to encourage economic trade with other countries. i mean really significant economic trade. one of the things i will give president obama credit for is he was able to get through the three free trade agreements that were negotiated by president bush at the end of his term and did not go through congress until president obama did that later on in his term. that's commendable. i'd like to see a lot more of that. the third would be a much more cautious dwrie regulation, the kind of regulation that actually works. more of a cost benefit analysis approach. the fourth is spending control. we jumped from 21% of gdp to 25% of gdp in spending in one yea
in the united states. >> let's say our constitution was a little different and barack obama called you in tomorrow and said, get everybody out of china and do whatever you have to do, make these, make everything you make in the united states. what would that do to the price of this device? >> i honestly -- it's not so much about price, it's about the skills, et cetera. over time there are skills that are associated with manufacturing that have left the u.s. not necessarily people but the education stops producing them. >> that's sad. how do we get that back? sbl well, it is a concerted effort to get them back. with this project that i've talked about where we will do a mac in the united states next year? i think this is a really good another step for us. the consumer electronics world was really never here. so it is not a matter of bringing it back, it is a matter of starting it here. >> good morning. thanks for joining us here. >> reporter: while steve jobs liked to avoid the spotlight, he also thrived on it. it was as if he was selling products that were pieces of his own soul. he wa
this morning, but let's start with that big story that joe was just talking about. president obama speaking to the business round table today, attending to the group's quarterly meeting of ceos. jim mcnerny says including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. this is the number one story that we've been talking about every morning here since the election. fiscal cliff, big, big issue. there are now, it seems, growing numbers of people on both the right and the left who would like to see us just go over that fiscal cliff. how big of a problem would that be? >> that would be a big problem. i actually still believe that those -- the democrats, the administration, republicans in the final analysis don't want to see that happen. they do understand that not only would that present a problem in the near term as we went over the cliff at the end of the year, but we still then have the whole debt ceiling fight that would transpire shortly into the new year. the issue isn't simply the negative result of going over the cliff, but it's also that business, consumers, everybody contin
from president obama. >> i'm hopeful we can reach an agreement. this is a serious issue. there's a lot at stake. the person people sent us here to work together towards the best possible solution, and that means cutting spending. the president doesn't agree with our approach, he's got an obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. >> meanwhile despite all of the back and forth, the market is seemingly optimistic today. at least some form of a deal will be released. we've been up 100 points on the dow industrials for the past hour. senator mark warner of virginia perhaps putting it best saying compared to the size of our economy the current proposals are relatively small and government should step up and get a deal done. >> we're joined by representative lee terry, republican from nebraska represents the district home to a guy we all know, warren buffett. >> pretty famous guy. >> we spoke to some folks already today. we're not hearing many details. what details have you received specifically from the democrats on the spending cuts they are willing to ma
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energy markets. the obama administration has said the study will be central to the decision on whether to export. he said exporting the gas would be a bigger impact on the economy. >> slap in the face of dow chemical. of coke, not coke the beverage company. but this was something that was hotly disputed within the romney campaign. he really let this stuff go because the romney campaign had some very big givers that were chemical companies. >> do we know, say, very bad, how much will prices conceivableably go up if we become an exporter of natural gas? is it that great a difference? >> we burn offer more natural gas than we use. burn off, in other words literally, you see those flames, we flare more than we use. so we got a real excess of this stuff. >> the government says that the -- 6.6% of current u.s. consumption. >> why would prices move that dramatically at all? wouldn't they just come down globally? >> the average, our $16 goes to $4. it costs $7 to get stuff from the united states. >> you should argue that they should go down because they went be the only one. dominion has brooi
is tax rates should not go up on anyone. i'm quoting president obama when he was senator obama, bad economic times is not the time to raise taxes on anyone. then why are we raising taxes -- >> the people are for it. we should extend the middle class tax cut and not the -- >> i don't want to be rude, but congressman garrett from new jersey and congressman from new jersey. >> thank you for being here. >> this mission continues. we've got much more from capitol hill. this morning, at 10:00, senator mark warner, and 11:00 a.m. former white house chief of staff, i remember when he was working in the private sector. now it's time for my co-anchor to come in. >> jim, i can't tell if you're having fun down there or not. you tweeted this morning that -- >> you call this fun? >> yeah. >> i'll tell you one thing, guys, listening to that conversation, a few minutes before the opening bell, front page of the "washington post," investors aren't waiting for a deal. they're selling stock, they're trying to sell homes. they're setting up shelters, gifts for taxes. this discussion is not academic by
by sloegt concentration of wealth and power. this is steeper than even president obama's proposal. obama, of course, wants the 45% rate but only applied to estates valued at 3.5 million or more. any cliff deal will have to include the estate tax, and that fight is just beginning. maria? >> amazing, another big fight over the estate tax. >> starting right now so a lot to look forward to. >> robert frank with the latest there. breaking news on mollycorp. over to you, brian. >> i followed this rare earth company for a couple of years and mark smith, the ceo and face of the company, no longer the ceo. i can tell you sources tell me, kind of a board decision as they say they are growing to an operational company. the company's also been investigated by the s.e.c. i'm ted the s.e.c. investigation does not have anything to do with this muff but a hi high-flyers. getting red pretty hard right now. still above $10. looked at his insider buying and selling. sold a lot last year and was in the process of buying some some of the shares this year. mark smith no longer the ceo and face of mcp. back to
closer to the edge of the fiscal cliff, every move is being magnified by the markets. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone on tuesday, exchanging new proposals. the president gave boehner a revised offer on monday, reducing his demand for new tax revenue from $1.6 trillion to $1.4 trillion over ten years. boehner responded with a plan that largely sticks to his original offer a week ago. reports say the white house has told republicans it would include an overhaul of corporate taxes in any budget deal. that hasn't been done before. in an exclusive interview with barbara walters of abc news, president obama says he still expects a deal before the end of the year. >> i remain optimistic that there are enough people of goodwill in this town that recognize our economy will be much better off. american families will be much better off if we get this done. the most important thing we can do is make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up on january 1. and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle-class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for
week long silence as that deadline looms. president obama and boehner spoke by phone on wednesday. they promised to renew the negotiations. several top executives have also weighed in on thursday. >> there's been some movement. everybody realizes there has to be a revenue component, spend component, entitlement reform component. >> patrick, where does it hang on now for you? clearly the president last decided there has to be tax rises for the wealthy. if the democratic side can come up with entitlement cuts, maybe we get a deal. >> i think this is pure political theater. this is a situation that was created 18 months ago in order for the politicians to get by the election. now they've done so. we still confront the same fiscal unsustainability here in the united states that's been evident to everybody for the the past five, six years. what we all recognize is we need more revenue, we needless spending, it's really a matter of a couple of adults getting in a room and figuring out how to resolve this temporary problem that they've created with an eye toward the long term on sustaina
-on-one meeting with president barack obama. we don't know what they said, and we're in the era now of parsing every single word they do say publicly. nancy pelosi was out before cameras, although it's hard to get a lot of indication of what's going on with had statement. take a listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> and if you listened carefully to speaker john boehner, he did say that there was no progress to report, but he may have been hinting a little bit of where there's some room for a deal here if the president will just meet him maybe not even halfway. listen to the speaker. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue the president seeks on the table, but none of it's going to be possible. the president insists on his position, insists on my way or the highway. that's not the way to get to an agreement. >> so where are we now? i think we're basically at a point where speaker boehner might be willing to cave a little bit here, but he needs somethin
a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. >> but tyler, as you suggested, this is all a work in progress. the thing we cannot see that is not visible to the public or to the press is what's going on behind the scenes. staff discussions resumed yesterday. don't know how fruitful. i haven
of this negotiation. >> eamon javers, thank you. >>> john harwood has the latest on mr. obama's big meeting with some of those ceos. john? >> the other way the ceos are in the middle of this is the president appeared before the business roundtable today as part of his effort to continue rounding up support from various constituencies for what he calls a balanced approach. one of the things he pressed was a priority that the head of the business roundtable, john eng r engler, has suggested which is a longer term fix to the debt ceiling problem. remember that it was a catastrophic standoff in mid 2011 that caused the downgrade in u.s. credit. president said he's simply not going to negotiate in the negotiating process that results in the same kind of stand-off. here is the president. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation? which, by the way, we have never done in our history until we did it last year. i will not play that game because we've got to break that habit bef
the president that can agree with that? >> we need presidential leadership right now. president obama needs to say yes, we can do these things. we need to do it now for the good of the country. >> are you optimistic that can occur? >> i'm hopeful and i'm going to keep pushing for it every single day. this is about what the american people want and need. >> one last question. you are pro growth and i have seen in action what you have done. are we missing something? is there a failure of imagination and some way to raise revenue involving oil and gas, that would make it so that we wouldn't have to raise taxes and could have more money? >> we have incredible opportunity in energy. you've seen it in north dakota but we can do that throughout the country in many different ways. we have to unleash the energy of this great country and we do it with the things you and i have been talking about. it's the private sector, that is what is going to make the difference for this country. and energy is a big part of it jim. >> i know what you have done and i'm proud of what you have done. your state is emb
obama speaking by phone, but no announcement of any upcoming face to face budget talks. earlier the president told the business round table that a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff could be reached quickly if republicans drop their opposition to raising tax rates on the wealthy. and in an interview on cnbc, timothy geithner says the gop is making a little bit of practice, but the white house is absolutely ready to go over the cliff if tax rates on the top 2% don't rise. >> our obligation is first do no harl. we need to lift that threat over the economy. and now as part of that, we'd like to put in place as i said a carefully designed mix of reforms to put our fiscal balance in the path of sustainability. as long as there is recognition by the other side that those rates will go up, we think we can reach an agreement on the set of reforms as i said that will be good for the economy. >> republicans were quick to hit back. orrin hatch called them stunning and irresponsible, but there may be more cracks in the ranks. "washington post" reports some moderate and conservative republicans
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to owe voter i-owvert i. the best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. president obama twice before has made declarative statements about what he's not willing to do. and frankly, all we've heard from the white house is what they're not willing to do. so the president has signed the it tension of these rates in the past. i think the underreported story in all of this drama are senate democrats that are wringing their hands and avoiding eye contact. >> mcconnell would have produce the brought it up not just as an amendment. >> we're too busy today, forget it. >> they can't pass it in their own house. >> so here is the question. the operative question is does this administration really want to take to us $22 trillion? is that really where they want to go? because that's the pathway. and if they do, aren't we better to deal with this right now? this doesn't get any better the longer we wait. when you have the speaker saying we're willing to move, our movement is to put revenue on the table -- >> are you saying a bucket of crazy is better than the long term implications? >> that'
, after president obama and house speaker john boehner both were tight-lipped how the negotiations went. the co-founder of the fix the debt campaign, he was asked about the chances of striking a deal to avoid the cliff. >> it's probably more like a 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible 35% chance that we'll still go over the cliff and have pure chaos. but i think the chances of getting it done now are better. i think that's what's key. >> be sure to tune in tomorrow for the fiscal cliff coverage live from washington. mission critical, rise above d.c., all day long. becky quick, jim cramer, maria bartiromo holding their feet to the fire about where they stand on the fiscal cliff and how they'll do their part to rise above partisan politics and reach a deal. now, there are some bowles comments. 40%, yeah, but the odds are much better. they're still 35% chance it will not happen. it's not exactly confidence building. >> not necessarily confidence building. alway
owners with us today are here to highlight president obama's demand to raise tax rates instead of cutting spending. his plan will hurt nearly 1 million small businesses around our country. that will affect hundreds of thousands of jobs. >> reporter: and guys, there are republicans here on capitol hill who are urging the speaker to cut a deal with the president. i talked to one of the earliest republicans to say, you know what, let's take a the president up on his offer to extend the bush tax cuts for everybody under $250,000 and at least take that uncertainty off the table and then continue to negotiate the rest to have later. some of the republicans are now coalessing around that view that they should give into what the president is suggesting, at least temporarily, and continue to negotiate on the rest because there's a lot of political pain here for republicans if we do get to the point where we go over the cliff because of those higher tax rate pateryers, guys. >> all right, eamon. thank you. >> the talk continues, but none of it face to face. be sure to catch a live interview with on
is under extreme pressure since president obama is definitely going to be seeing a wealthy tax added to it. on the economic news, little light tomorrow with initial claims at about 390,000, but the big story is really friday as we look to the jobs report. we believe that the effect of the payroll will be at 50,000 range due to the effect of hurricane sandy which could put our unemployment up to an 8% rate. >> all right. we'll be watching that. thanks very much to you both. we appreciate it. of course we'll be looking at this market and whether or not it loses the steam come the big rally today. ticktock, ticktock on the fiscal cliff. my thoughts on the story from timothy geithner. guess what, folks. i think we're going over the cliff. back in a moment. are system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unite
and evolving story. >>> also, the ceo of accounting giant recently met with president obama. he say miss other ceos in that meeting agreed the tax rates for the wealthy have to rise as part of any fiscal cliff deal. he joins us exclusively later on "the closing bell." stay tuned. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- ♪ you can stay in and like something... ♪ [ car alarm deactivates ] ♪ ...or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... i'm with scottrade. >>> one of the most bizarre man hunts in recent memory is coming to an end in central
the chief executives who met with president obama last week and called the conversations, quote, constructive. since then, not much progress has been made. we want to talk more about that exclusively. he's here with me to talk if he still feels that way about fiscal cliff. good to have you on the program. deloitte ceo. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to get to the president and your meeting and really zero in on the fiscal cliff. before we do that, i want to get to the situation around hewlett-packard and autonomy. of course, hp taking a massive write down on the acquisition of autonomy. ceo meg whitman throwing deloitte under the bus in some sense because the firm was among those charged with examining the books before the deal. what can you tell us about what you did in terms of overseeing the books at autonomy and what do you say now that she's charging this fraud? >> sure, maria. unfortunately for us, that matter has been turn the over to investigation and the authorities. believe it or not, that's one of the things i'm not on the hot seat a
it." sometimes i feel bad for the speaker, speaker boehner. he's caught between the elected obama and the ufrn elected norquist crossfire. there's not a lot of room to maneuver in that space. tuesday we've got two big investor meetings. first there's dell world. dell world? i like kirby's fourth world. there's dell world. is the risk taken out of this one now? it's down so low. or does it even matter? deleveraged buyout as goldman hinted in its sell-buy research upgrade this week? second, there's a -- how many times can you tell us that monster drinks aren't any worse and may actually be better than a cup of joe from starbucks? let us count the ways that this analyst meeting slash lovefest, they will tell you that there's no better way to preserve your heart than to drink a taste of monster every morning. now, analysts will be plenty hopped up when they come out of this meeting because they'll be recommending this stock in high-speed fashion. next on wednesday we're going to get the results from joy global. here's the company that has the best read on chinese growth of all the com
, you should be taxed when you make them. the obama administration had a pretty good proposal to crack down on this stuff back in 2009. never went any place. and that's not surprising given how much money is raised from google. >> what i would say is it is their fiduciary duty to pay a low tax rate. that's what the law says. that's what they have to do. i believe that's what they are doing in this case. >> you know, they talked in the past in washington about a moratorium of some kind to allow companies to repatuate the funds they have overseas. would that satisfy what you're talking about here? >> no -- we need real systemic reform. fiduciary responsibility. google has a brand as one of the good guys. if irt starts to tarnish that brand, that's bad for shareholders long-term. and i think this tarnishes its brand. >> what if we saw a lowering -- it's not on the table obviously. but in theory land, what if we saw a lowering of the corporate tax rate? would that bring an end to this? >> i don't know if it's necessarily a lowering of the actual rate. what is called for is simplifying the
obama did not weigh in on the issue, but he was -- he did win re-election. if the president were to call you and say, ben, your country needs your continued stewardship at the federal reserve. we need you to stay and finish the job, see this through, would you consider it? would you do it, and by chance have you had any conversations to that effect with the president or anybody on his team? thank you. >> so to answer the last part, no, i haven't had any conversations. i think the president has got quite a few issues he needs to be thinking about from fiscal cliff to many other appointments and so on. from my own perspective i just -- i really don't have anything to add from the last press conference. i'm very much engaged in this difficult issue that we're discussing today, and i have not been spending time thinking about my own future, so i -- i don't really have anything to add there. >> okay. we'll go to kevin and then katherine and then back over here. >> over here, mr. chairman, thank you. two questions, taking the goldbarb rule into effect, one having to do with the cpi, a lot of d
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of money. >> and jpmorgan upgrades aetna. >> people were supposed to hate them ahead of obama care. stocks doing well. what's coming up? >> i want to do disruptive companies and i watch "squawk." this company is one that has a stove you can put in a couple sticks of wood and starts and generates electricity. you can then charge your ipad, your iphone, you no longer have to be hostage to the grid and they did it -- it caught my eye during hurricane sandy. brooklyn company. the fire department use them. everyone is using them. >> you are doing more private companies with disruptive technology. >> i think that the exciting part of america is we have the world's greatest technology. i want to point it out. many companies are private. >> santelli has -- >> you have to be kidding. rick santelli here. welcome. my goodness. 74 74.5. i had to double-check that one many times. we're coming off numbers at 82.7 for number. 82.6 for october. those are close. the best numbers since the fall of '07. this 74.5 is a really big drop that takes you to the weakest numbers since august when we had a series of
by republican senator portman in the "wall street journal." while he disagrees with president obama's call to raise taxes on top earners, quote, the negotiations require a good and take. still to me it sounds like a lot of the same. but we'll leave it there. they will be leading off every hour with a special mission critical rise above report talking to lawmakers pushing them as to why there is no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff and explain what's at stake. i think they may be chasing people down the halls to some extent. >> to be a fly on the wall. >> i guess it's more. we will hear becky personally. >> becky will remind us what's going on today. a pen fee of them will go october trade sales. the like day for earning, that's due before the opening sales. >> always a good read. >>> protests in egypt's tahrir square turns to violence this morning with nine reportedly injured from an unknown gunman. we'll have the latest from cairo when we come back. >>> you are watching "worldwide exchange." these are your headlines. talks on the cliff seem to be advancing as the gop is ready to negotiate. >
and the senate. >> of course, last time, speaker boehner did a deal with obama. it was actually rejected by the rest of the gop, and the whole thing fell apart. how significant is it as boehner looks to make room amongst your party for a compromise that he's removed four outspoken cob serve tiffs from the high profile committees in the new congress? >> i don't know if that has much to do with the deal coming up, or threats to force people to make a deal. but he's got a difficult job, no doubt. but i think we all know, as republicans, there's going to be additional revenue, as much as any of us want to resist it. there's going to be additional revenue. the question really is, and the ball is really in the president's court, how much are we going to deal with the spending side. remember, if the president gets everything he wants, that's only about $82 billion in revenue next year. with a deficit of, what, $1.2 trillion. so it really is the spending that matters most right now. and that's what we haven't seen a good plan for. >> sessions also told the "times" this morning he respects the sp
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